Honda Pan European - 1996 ST1100T Standard
Replacing the Exhaust System
I hadn't planned on replacing this for a while - it looked OK - except the collector which is housed underneath the bike near the centre stand. It was rusty. The pipes were OK. The silencers were OK. The bike has done 38,500 miles.
Then a small hole appeared.
Honda Front pipe assembly costs is the region of £450. I searched around and found that Motad make a stainless steel pattern for about £270. You have to watch this though - no one probvides any pictures - and some pipes in magazines are not the stainless steel ones. Motad pipes do fit Honda Silencers, and they do have all of the welded heat shield mounting points in place.
Motad do not provide gaskets for the silencer/collector joint. You need to keep your old ones (if you can get them out) or buy new Honda gaskets. About £17. You will also need the 4 port gaskets - these are copper rings. Patterns are available, but I ended up having to buy Honda pieces. There is no gasket between the front pipes and the collector.
This took 2 whole days. It was not easy. Apart from the fact that the fairing has to come off, I expected the pipes to fit into place like Lego. But they didn't. The pipe fit into the collector is snug, and this presents a problem - it is almost impossible to manoevre this joint when everything is almost in place. It is impossible to put the collector on afterwards - the pipes did not quite line up on my bike. You cannot do this anyway without the rear wheel removed - so the bike has to be on the centre stand. But the centre stand gets in the way of installation if it is down !
I ended up fitting the left pipe. Loosely to the exhaust port, with the collector already in place. I used some Exhaust Jointing compound inside the collector - wetted with water to provide better lubrication. I couldn't use the original collector bolt - it had sheared when dismantling. In any case the old collector has a metal sleeve for the bolt. I sawed this off and used it inside the original rubber mounting point to provide a better fit for the new bolt.
I then fitted the right hand exhaust into the collector and rotated it into position, keeping an eye on the alignment with the exhaust port.
There was a considerable strain at all 4 junctions - at the engine and at the collector. So much so that the collector ended up about 2 inches too far to the right. I used a long bolt and drew it into position while jiggling the other connections. If the collector is not exactly seated, it prevents the centre stand from being retracted properly. If it has not been pushed onto the pipes far enough, it fouls the cross member on the centre stand.
With everything in place, it only remained to refit the silencers. This should have been easy, but the strain in all of the fittings had left the collector not quite horizontal - making it impossible to fit the silencer on one side. I had to remove the pipes and repeat the entire process - this time with the silencers loosley fitted inside their gaskets in the collector - just to hold the collector in the correct position. This turned out to be a much better way !
So the sequence ended up as:
Now - if you forgot to put the silencer clamps in place ..... (note that these can foul the centre stand if incorrectly positioned).
These pages relate to my first bike after a 17 year lay-off. Bought in 2000 with 28,000 miles on the clock. Traded in for a 2000AY version in Sep 2003 with 60,000 miles on the clock. The pages were intended to provide information to a prospective buyer, but are maintained here as information for anyone who may be interested.
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